Full Tilt shuts down bot lead cheating

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Posted on Oct 16th 2010  -  Subject: Full Tilt shuts down bot lead cheating

In a piece of good news, the Full Tilt Poker fraud and security team has identified and taken action against a bot ring.  All the bots were operated through a site called Shanky Technologies via a site called bonusbots.com which purportedly sells a variety of "advanced poker robots."  These robots supposedly play professional-level online poker for you at a variety of games and levels.  The company charges $130 to purchase their bots claiming they are undetectable by Full Tilt and other major poker rooms.  

The obvious problem is that the bots are completely illegal and violate the user agreement of all poker sites.  Full Tilt has actively been trying to shut down these bots for years.  Apparently, in this coordinated effort, the bots targeted low level Rush poker games because the games can't be railed making it harder to witness or record the purported cheating.  Full Tilt eventually did discover the cheating bot incidents, shutting down the accounts and confiscating all their funds.  They have also followed up by reimbursing many of those affected.

Shanky Technologies were defiant saying that they will continue to operate their bot sales to players on other sites.  They even put out a ridiculous statement:

Full Tilt Poker came out of nowhere and took aggressive measures to stop the use of our poker bot software at their online poker room. There was no warning given to anybody, and this was after years of tolerating us to such an extent that most of us felt they welcomed us with open arms.

 To be certain, the use of such software has always been against their “official” terms of service. We all knew that. But for the past few years that part of their agreement was always perceived as being given with a wink. There are hundreds of us who have been active there on a daily basis and the overwhelming majority of us have never heard so much as a peep out of them. If they suddenly decided that they didn’t want us, given the fact that they have allowed us to proliferate unrestricted up to this point, one would expect a warning and a chance to stop using the software.

This was not their approach. They came out of left field and froze all our accounts and have confiscated all our funds. This was a very sudden and calculated move on their part. It would be difficult to describe their actions as anything other than stealing, if you understand the environment.
 
We were all taken by surprise and are somewhat shocked. We at Shanky Technologies now wish to offer a sincere apology to all our customers who have lost funds in this development. We are guilty of being lulled into submission by the permissive practices of this company and in fact have made statements, even recently, that we felt Full Tilt was a safe room to use our software at. Especially with all the stealth measure built into our poker  bots.
Those kinds of statements were never posted publicly on our web site or in our download materials however. We have always made proper disclaimers and given warnings about the risk involved on every page of our website and in our download materials. You are ultimately responsible for the risks you took in using our product.

However in private emails, and in some posts in our support forum, we did make statements that we thought the room was safe from this type of thing, given the long history of tolerance that we have there. And we are very sorry for that. We would never intentionally mislead our customers about the risks involved.

As an example, we get constant requests to support Poker Stars and Party Poker. We always have replied that those poker rooms have no tolerance for bots and as a result we will not even ever attempt to support them.  There is no point, as the risk is simply outrageous. So we always focused on poker rooms that are known for high “bot toleration” in their practices.

This has obviously now changed. Consequently we must seriously consider un-supporting Full Tilt poker. They apparently do not want us there anymore, and would rather have our account balances than our business. We see that as an incredibly unethical move on their part and must question anybody who wishes to continue to play there even manually. Look at the people you are trusting with your money. See what kind of people they really are. We would recommend not giving them even one more hand of business, whether you ever used a poker bot before or not. 

Who knows, one day they may take all your money because you visited Sharkscope.com or Tableratings.com and they scanned your browser history to find it. (Don’t laugh, the only way they are catching us is by blatant privacy violation and scanning your PC.)

If we decide to add more stealth measures and continue support, we will be issuing stern warnings about their history and the risks involved. Botting there will not be recommended by us again, ever. We think the way forward is to simply support other poker rooms instead, ones that have a more bot-friendly attitude.

As a reminder, we still support at least four other good rooms at the moment, and a couple of these have shown a great interest in having our bots play there. We think that “bot-friendly” is really the wave of the future, and that soon smart operators will realize how much online poker players love tinkering and playing with bot software and will make a “bots welcome” official policy as a result. Yes, we really do believe that or we wouldn’t be in this business. Some of our currently supported rooms are getting close to this in fact.

Some of you will stop botting because of this experience, or at least put it down for a while. But those of us who love this hobby will pick ourselves up and get back in the game at greener pastures. Shanky Technologies isn’t going anywhere. In fact we have exciting things planned in the near future.

Thanks for your understanding in this matter.

Sincerely,

Shanky Technologies team

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Posted on Oct 17th 2010
and when followed by the blocking of ipoker bots?
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Posted on Oct 17th 2010
I think there are many boots on Ipoker too, clean it up
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Posted on Oct 17th 2010
yeah betmost should be under investigation
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Posted on Oct 19th 2010
yeah betmost should be under investigationno not bet most, but players
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Posted on Oct 19th 2010

In a bot cheating situation, it is illegal players, not the poker room, that are the problem. BetMost is on a network, iPoker, that is responsible for the fraud and security detection.  They are the ones that need to be working hard to root out any potential fraud or illegal activity.  If you see potential cheating incidents you should contact their team of investigators.

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Posted on Oct 19th 2010  -  Subject: i
I ran to check my FT account to see if they reimbursed me something but they didn´t... still poor
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