is online poker rigged

i hope not , but ive been on some sites and been in tourneys where paticular players get unberliverble luck or i sometimes get the feeling they r people been put there to win the cash but we will never no i guess.

You hit the nail right on the head ! DONK!!!! if you win a nice pot and decide to withdrawl say 3/4 of your stack before your withdrawl request even processes the cards go bad ! As a new player on any given site you will win consistantly for a week maybee two or three but eventually playing the same cards the same style poker you will start to dwindle away. I have played online poker for 6 years now and repeatedly try to tell myself its not rigged must have just caught a wave of bad cards. the only advice that i can give is play hard , fast and loose as a new player  GET IN GET UP GET OUT! move on to a new site.

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Bad beat happen, thats part of poker. You will play probably 2 to 20 times as many hands per hour online vs live (depending on whether or not you multi table) so the bad beats will come more often.

If you find that you are constantly losing, then maybe your style is not in fact as good as you think. Take a look at your hand histories and examine your bad beats. Was the player in the hand for absolutely no reason, were they chasing a certain hand? If it appears as though there was a reason for them to call, then it was just unlucky. There is a reason why hands are only 75% favourites, thats because 25% of the time you still lose. Losing is part of poker, learn to live with it, and still play a solid game, and you will see your own potential increase.

its not rigged its not worth it, its just bad players hitting cards on the river fishing, but it feels bad i know

I have the same opinion and i think its for evryone else 2

Well, I made a lil experiment..

I played 2000 hands online & 2000 hands live..

The result is astonishing.. Bad Beats Online: 50 of 2000 .. Bad Beats Live: 1 of 2000

Now explain that, I can run it over and over, again and again, poker software for poker software.. nothin changes..

I don't think it is rigged. Just ask yourslef. Why would any pokersite rig there software? They can make enough money on the rakes without rigging it. and as for tournys, It doesn't matter to the site who wins. eveyone has paid the rake and they don't gain anything no matter who wins. That is unless it's a bounty tourny.

As I've stated before and will repeat, If there's a tremendous amount of money involved there WILL be some form of illegitimacy going on to increase profits and/or favortism.

You just have to think a little deeper my friend.

I agree with you that everyone has paid the rake the same in a tourny, but it DOES matter to the site profiteers who wins on a regular basis.

Here's why, if the winners of the large payoff tournies, such as the last table in the thousands for example, are NOT also big cash game players most of that money will never again be raked off  in a cash game but probably withdrawn off the site by the tourny finalists if they are only tourny players.

In other words money won by a large cash game player will be "double raked" by the site when that player creates action at the next cash game he plays.

Comprende?

 yer nice won mate lol D--K

NOPE! it just seems that way:)

Well, I dont think online poker is rigged, because I dont get what the pokersites would make out of riggin their games. They earn money, so i dont believe they would risk their reputation for that.

As long as all you Donks keep thinking that everything is "hunky dorie", nothing will change.

Heck lets see a show of hands as to how many of you have even bothered to cough up 20 bucks to join Poker Players Alliance to help make this sport legal in the USA?

When were done with the government crybabies and get this game legal again, guess what's next?

Policeing the Pokersites is my bet and definitely needed for sure!

(By the way my hand is up on the PPA question)

Please explain to me what  you consider a bad beat, then provide some examples of the beats that you took and how the hand played out.

Next, tell me what limits you play live and what limits you play online.

Then, run your scenario over 100K hands, because 2K worth of hands is not even remotely close to being considered longterm. I can do that in one afternoon online.

I'm not trying to antagonize you, I would just like to see more information on your experiment before I consider any part of it remotely accurate.

I have played 80K worth of hands online since August and you know what, bad beats happen, they always will. Poker is not rigged to ensure that they happen, the quality of player is just a lot poorer so you often see people more willing to push allin on a draw because they consider it funny money. Some people just can't equate a number on the screen to a stack of chips like they can in real life. Pushing a button and pushing your chips in the middle are a lot different and that affects some players judgement.

My first three MTTS at Betmost after depositing for the first time ever there. Second, rivered --second again, rivered again, and seventh. 800 bucks..cashed out. Since then, 3 months of NOTHING. Coincidence? Variance? No, Im afraid not. QQ today called by 6-7. Gutshot straight on turn, and third six on river. I doubt as if it would have mattered what he called with, because the three hands I saw this particular seat play, he hit the turn and river perfectly EVERY hand, despite the fact half the table were sitouts. The very next hand he ran three sevens. Coincidence?

Yesterday, 1000 VIP free roll, SIX sitouts. Everytime I got AQ or AK, one of the active players had AA. Coincidence? No, Im afraid not. I then made a move with JJ one to my left chip leader, one of the four active players, he has QQ. I made two position moves, once with K-10 two on my left, one had A-9 and the other had 99. Once with the JJ and one on my left has QQ, coincidence? Thousands upon thousands of posts on the internet questioning online pokers randomness. Coincidence? Each and every one of these complaintants, according to the people that defend online poker, simply suck.

Being extremely succsessful online myself, and yeah I can prove it, this run of 3 months of variance is BS. If I actually suffered jaw dropping beats like this over and over again on a live table, I might believe whats happening at Betmost.

I five times raised an ace yesterday and didnt hit one. Then on the sixth one, AK, I hit the ace, but of course the other guy had AA. You know, once in a while, sure, poker is a hard game. I agree totally that you see beats, and quite often. But at this rate, not a chance.

In response to the above post.....

First off, variance is exactly what has happened to you. You will run really well for a while and then get absolutely sh_t kicked. It happens. The AA vs AK thing where the case A hits happens. If there wasn't a fourth A in the deck, then I would consider it rigged.

As for you thinking that a FREEROLL is rigged, holy crap man, what possible reason would a poker site have to rig a FREEROLL??????????????????????? They have no reason to care who wins that sort of tourney, its FREE.

The fact that poke rooms have to design an algorithmn to create random does leave some room for error and no doubt the random number generators that some poker rooms are employing may not be as advanced as other ones. This still leaves little reason for one poker room to decide to create more bad beat situations than another. If you just let the players play, you will have enough people losing and putting money onto your poker site anyway.

I've seen about every bad beat in the book, but I've also held up in situations where I should have been drawn out. In the end, most of the sitations even out.

As for your raising with Ax and not htting one in 6 hands or so......I will say only this, there are 3 Aces in the deck when you hold one and in a full ring game that leaves 32 cards to see the flop, 29 of which are not your ace. 3 / 29 only gives you a 10% chance to hit an ace. So basically if you haven't seen an Ace by the time you raise it 10 times, then you can start wondering.

Bad beats are often the result of bad players, and there is certainly a greater supply of those in the online world.