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Posted on Jul 1st 2006  -  Subject: Final Table Help !
I make it to pay or the final table only to poop out in 8th or 9th. Never 1st if winning is a ticket at 30th and money is 20th i get 23rd. I need help please any advise welcome Thank you
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Posted on Jul 1st 2006
Well that's a very big question. I'd love to write an essay on how to succeed at final tables, but I don't have time :-) One reason for your lack of success could be your stack size going in to the final table. If you haven't got that many chips to start with, then naturally you've got less chance of winning. It can be hard to strike a balance between tightening up to ensure a place on the FT, where the real money is, and still playing aggressively to ensure your chip stack is healthy. Try adding the SB and BB together, and multiplying that by 10. If you can keep your stack greater than this throughout the final levels you'll do just fine. If your short you've got to be prepared to pick your all-in moments and not be afraid to get all your chips in there. Die now or die later.
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Posted on Jul 2nd 2006
I was wondering about that myself, if you're on the final table and the blinds are starting to cripple your stack, which hands do you choose to play? I find high hands get much more valuable around that time, 'cause things like suited connectors (even if they are JT) are no good if you can't raise them bigtime. the implied odds are totally gone. so i like to wait untill i get at least an ace, or a king if things start getting really difficult. Is that any good? What do you play? pocket pairs are also an option i think.
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Posted on Jul 2nd 2006
Read Harrington on Hold Em Volume 2. It's solely about the late stages and final tables of tournaments.
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Posted on Jul 2nd 2006
I think final table position becomes so much more important, especially if you're short stacked. If I'm down to less than 5x SB+BB then I'm pretty much all in to an unopened pot with any two cards 10 or higher, Most any ace, especially suited, also most suited K and any pocket ppair (except 22, no real logice to that, I just don't like 22). My thinking goes that I'd rather go out on a wing and a prayer and give myself a chance to get into the game properly than sit by and lamely get blinded out. The success or otherwise of this tactic depends a great deal on your table image, but with me generally seeing
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Posted on Jul 2nd 2006  -  Subject: Push/fold
If u want to got to FT u must play a lot of hands and push hard once u hit the flop, activ and agg. players seems to get furthest. Thats what i have expirienced most of the time, good players do not have a high ITM-persentage but they play tourneys whit high payouts once u reach the FT, thats what keeps the roll on the positive side...
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Posted on Jul 2nd 2006  -  Subject: Well I Made It To 5th Need More Help !
Thank You All I followed all your good advise ! Im not an aggressive player but im practicing. I play so tight my a@@ squeeeks ! I have a real handicap i cant bluff, i just cant do it. But when i do have good cards AA KK QQ 1010 AK AQ AJ A10 im all in, im not afraid and usualy they call and i win. after theysee me take out a couple of people then they just fold, so i switch to slow playing them to confuse. and usually win those. i want to mix it up so they cant tell. I rarely get anything with small pockets ( i hate them I dont play them right i guess) under 8 and usually fold them. I will call KQ QJ J10 if not raised before me. I try to call bet or raise on or behind the button but sometimes not perfect circumstances. If i dont have anything or a glimpse of something on the flop i will fold, i know its not good and i loose money that way but i cant bring my self to call any more money on nothing. My question If i dont get any good cards, and i cant bluff, i sit there and blind down soooo low. when i made 5th today i maybe played 15 hands total out of 1000 people to make it to the final table with 40,000.00 Tooo little stack. When i try to loosen and play kj k10 k9 k8 q------------- j------------ 10--------- i loose my money. Stuck between a rock and a hardplace Your advise worked so well for me i figure you might have a solution, i am practicing aggressiveness, my bet raise and re-raise, and i can semi-bluff i still have to have something at leaste a pair lol. i dont like it when someone takes alot of my money on a bluff i dont wish to do that to fellow poker players. Someone asked me during the tournament " how can you call yourself a pro at poker you never play or bet" I said hence the word FOLD in my name Fold Em Pro i am a pro at folding not playing ! Please help again you were all so great ! Thank You Fold Em Pro
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Posted on Jul 2nd 2006
You have a problem, Fold'em... If you feel guilty about winning with the best hand, or a good bluff, you'd better find another hobby. This isn't a game for anyone with a sense of compassion for a weaker player. We live on the fish.
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Posted on May 21st 2007
I would stay very tight at the "end" of a tournament..
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Posted on May 24th 2007
Maintain a good table image, acquire a big stack, and don't get involved in large pots with big stacks unless you have a high probability of winning. Play tight-aggresive, value bet and be aggresive preflop.
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Posted on May 24th 2007
Try to pick your spots to be aggressive. Position is especially key early on in the final table. Patience is also very important and play hands that you are willing to be committed to go all the way with.
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