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77722 Nibs: 4,377
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Posted on Aug 5th 2008
so the freerolls are the same payroll and teamchallenge?
2328 Nibs: 36,909
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The issue is, there are limits on how much cash can be paid out on the iPoker network to follow their guidelines. We are at the max, no matter how we look at it, so we try to be creative to come up with new reward strategies and so on. What do you suggest we do? We have had many members tell us how great the Team Challenge is. Of course some will disagree and that's part of it. Please share your ideas for improvement and we will keep every suggestion in mind as we want what's best. A couple things to keep in mind: 1. For CASH rewards, you should consider the Poker Payroll Challenge the ultimate rewards system. It pays you back for your play every week, the most we are allowed to. If you want a CUSTOM plan for it, just contact support and they will take care of you. 2. For REFERRALS, you should consider the $250 per Player a great payout system. If you have valuable players that are joining, just let the support know and they will give you special consideration as well. 3. The TEAM CHALLENGES are meant to be bonus payouts ON TOP of all the individual stuff. We created them to give the little guys a level playing field (for once) against the big boys. This Challenge does exactly that, and gives smaller players a chance to get in very valuable tournaments. The big guys are already getting very well compensated in cash from the Poker Payroll Challenge. Please keep positive energy moving forward and let us know your suggestions so we can make PI the best it can be!I'm sorry but this is not right!!!! You could have explained this last month! Every month a new change, but you can't figure out that you need to tell us before changing, not after. Next, how can we refer people here when it chaotic, new people want to see a stable site and since the change over to BetMost, PI on almost a monthly bases has change either the type of pay outs, the amounts, or the places that get payed out (ie: lb pay-outs in Jan were the top 50 got cash, then top 30, then top 20, as well as the changes to LB1-2's player totals) never a word till after. As for your last point, this just trashes any reason for me to put forth any effort here, there is no benefit to me to run, recuit, or promot the team competeition. And by taking the cash pay-out from this competition, that flies in the face of what you said about "the little guy" and giving him a chance, how's cutting 300 pay-out possitions and no cash for the top teams help the "little guy". All I see is $5000 being taken away monthly in pay-outs that helped the "little guy" and the whales keep getting fatter. Why not spread the wealth from the top down? Top LB pay outs haven't gone down from what I've seen. How's about spreading that wealth arround?   If you folks are having cash problems there at PI, these changes are not going to change that, if anything you will lose business, because less is not more and in the last 2 months I'm getting a lot less here and you're asking a lot more! As a wise man once said, when things start sounding bizzare, best to step back to get a better look. I think all members shouild take a step back from the tables and let you guys re-think this possition. Please feel free to email me Jason, but I'm not changing my possition, your post is full of "it", try the truth!!!
Remember, Mother always knows best!!!!! (lol or at least that's what she always told me;) !)
79397 Nibs: 12,364
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Posted on Aug 5th 2008
C'mon, let's stay fair. i don't like the new payout-strucure as much as you do, and the changes every month are annoying too instead of keeping it as it had been. But you're talking PI into the ground, as it would be the worst thing ever and everything would be bad. They're doing a lot and they're trying to make their best - even if it's botched sometimes. Criticism is okay, and part of every community, as long as it doesn't drift away in perpetual nagging. Anybody some constructive ideas?
nice boys don't play rock n' roll!
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C'mon, let's stay fair. i don't like the new payout-strucure as much as you do, and the changes every month are annoying too instead of keeping it as it had been. But you're talking PI into the ground, as it would be the worst thing ever and everything would be bad. They're doing a lot and they're trying to make their best - even if it's botched sometimes. Criticism is okay, and part of every community, as long as it doesn't drift away in perpetual nagging. Anybody some constructive ideas?OK lets be "fair", this has happened numerous times and originally I'd post ideas and even email them to PI, but this is happening far too often to be "fair". As for using our BR's for experiments, well I don't see that as "fair", why not beta test before then use the forum to work out the bugs (I wish I had the original post I did about this a year ago or so, but it's been lost in all the "changes") and let the members use thier BMP's or "Nibs" instead  of "real money" to run  these through till they get it right? Why tell us they want to help"the little guy", when everything done in the last few months says the opposite? The cancelling of the $350 FR's wasn't needed, PI could have issued tickets to all and made it a first come first served, but PI said that wouldn't be "fair".  As I pointed out the top of the LB's payouts haven't changed and how many people have PI hired lately and were having more issues than ever? How's about looking in the mirrior and cutting back at the top instead of creating a situation where you're going to lose players instead of bring in more?  
Remember, Mother always knows best!!!!! (lol or at least that's what she always told me;) !)
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Posted on Aug 5th 2008
it seems since the team challenge changed to free rolls instead of cash prizes people have stopped playing as much,judging by the updates on team positions and amount of raked hands they have generated since the change.PI Simon says to put constructive comments onto this thread with ideas on how to improve things.its simple pay cash prizes like before on team challenge and people will play more once again which benefits everyone.
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Posted on Aug 5th 2008
"6th-10th Place: $300 USD Freeroll for active members combined (Max 40 players)" Last challenges prize freeroll, when it will played?
79397 Nibs: 12,364
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Posted on Aug 5th 2008
@nippon_joe, they're held on sundays @seff, my oppinion. Definately better than it is now. @mothertrash,  i really wanted to defend a bit of PI's position, but you got point. I'm sorry to say that, but the criticism is definatly entitled. I just want to know, who's happier with the changes and where te positive feedback is PI i telling about. What i see is negative across the board.
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Posted on Aug 5th 2008

Ok, I'll attempt to address each of your points...

You could have explained this last month! Every month a new change, but you can't figure out that you need to tell us before changing, not after.

We made this change in the first 3 days of the new month. That seems pretty fair to me, but we will certainly try to make these announcements on the 1st of the month from now on. Understand, though ,that that is a lot to do. Maybe something on your side is to not expect certain things to remain the same as the previous month until you see the new terms posted. We obviously try to keep this the best we can considering our costs, the network limitations and so on.

Next, how can we refer people here when it chaotic, new people want to see a stable site and since the change over to BetMost, PI on almost a monthly bases has change either the type of pay outs, the amounts, or the places that get payed out (ie: lb pay-outs in Jan were the top 50 got cash, then top 30, then top 20, as well as the changes to LB1-2's player totals) never a word till after. 

You can refer people for the $250 per player that you will earn from them. The Team Challenge is just one of many benefits, and it's a great one for the little guys as they can play 10 cent tables and get entry into a $1,000 Freeroll. This is on top of all the other benefits, deposit bonuses, BetMost VIP Program freerolls and so on. There's plenty to refer for.

And by taking the cash pay-out from this competition, that flies in the face of what you said about "the little guy" and giving him a chance, how's cutting 300 pay-out possitions and no cash for the top teams help the "little guy".

The little guys have a great advantage with payouts as they currently are. They can qualify for a $1,000 Freeroll even if they rake $10. Not bad :)

Why not spread the wealth from the top down? Top LB pay outs haven't gone down from what I've seen. How's about spreading that wealth arround? 

Like any rewards community, the top guys are going to get what they deserve. We don't want to take money from them and give it to the little guys. It's not how it should work, and I'm sure you understand that. However, we do want to throw in some great rewards for the little guys out of our pocket, and I think we do a nice job of that with the current system.

 If you folks are having cash problems there at PI, these changes are not going to change that, if anything you will lose business, because less is not more and in the last 2 months I'm getting a lot less here and you're asking a lot more!

if you are getting less, I suggest you contact the Support team and they will analyze your account, and what rewards you are getting. There are a lot of things they can do, especially if you are an activep layer like you are. I'm sure you'll be happy if you take that approach versus slamming the cool promotions we try to run.

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Posted on Aug 5th 2008
Thank you for the reply Jason, I'm not going to debate you, I'm going to let the membership do that and they can go over that list of yours. I think spyfus thread has put it best and I await your response to it.    Click Here for the thread  I think it says it all right there. Thank spyfus, for taking the time to put it down so well!!!
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Posted on Aug 6th 2008  -  Subject: Good Business Principles?
I would think that good business principles would mean trying to grow the smaller supporters so they become big supporters! Not lavishing big prizes on the top players, and treating the smaller players as if they are just there to make up the numbers. Any successful business that has gone to the top has always treated the smallest customer as if he were king. When the organization has become too arrogant and thinks that they can rely on just a few people to keep them going, that is a sure sign it is going to fall. I am just wondering whether I should jump ship now, before PokerInside crumbles. The success of the internet poker industry is due to the volume of players online, not because 20 players are keeping it going. Maybe we should all stop playing for a while, and let your TOP players fight it out for the spoils. After all you are doing us a HUGE favour by throwing us these scraps of freerolls as prizes!
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Posted on Aug 6th 2008
All players are rewarded with the Poker Payroll Challenge whether they're big, small or middle stakes players. All the extra benefits, LB1 , LB2 and LB3, player freeroll, gambler, VIP $1,000, $2,000, $5,000 and $10,000, $250 referral commission, referral challenge, blog challenge...the list is endless with the benefits you get. Understand that certain side promotions change which is the regular part of business...the main challenge will stand (poker payroll challenge). As you can see there's TONS of things you're getting from being with PokerInside and BetMost. Obviously with poker you play for the poker profits at the tables as your number one priority and then a reward system which gives you some of your fees back (poker payroll challenge) everything else is a benefit. We have one of the highest community rewards systems, with many differnt ways to rewards players. With all this said I think we do a very good job taking care of all our members whether they're small, medium or big. In the end we do have a large number of players and its hard to please them all bud we will continue to do our best to make sure most if not all our members are happy. Good luck at the tables!
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Posted on Aug 6th 2008
i`m not happy PI Mark the team challenge is the only thing ive profited on here and ive been a member since november 2006 u have not benefited me at all ever apart fom 1 sponsorship in all this time ive been a member which i recieved a couple of weeks ago. which was only 10$ so i feel im getting no benefits what so ever. ive never even won a hand in a free roll for the last 3 weeks and ive been in plenty and in all the time ive been a member i have won 0$ from the so called free rolls.im not a bad player because i have won on nearly every site i have played on and won multi tourneys with over 700 runners in it so why i fail at free rolls on ipoker i just dont know.
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Posted on Aug 7th 2008
You're not being rewarded by the Poker Payroll Challenge? Only the Team Challenge? That's not even possible. The Poker Payroll Challenge is the main challenge and never changes. Therefore, saying this is unstable and things keep changing is unfair. The Team Challenge is something that is extra ontop of the main benefit (poker payroll challenge) its something that was only suppose to run for two months but we've decided to keep it around longer and the prizes have changed. Simply business question. Do you add something that cost more then it benefits a business...and run it at a lose? Too all those players saying that with the team concept gone they're not getting a fair value for their membership with PokerInside...please email me personally and I'll check your account personally and see exactly what you're getting. Unfortunately, I can't discuss it hear cause its personal info. However, if you want to later put the info on here that fine...or if you don't mind me writing it here let me know. Email me with the link and let me know its okay to put the reply on the forums and I will. I think that this is becoming a bigger issue then it really should be, cause people are putting too much on a extra benefit. It's like the summer dash for cash even, when that goes do you think everyone will complain and leave the site?
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Posted on Aug 7th 2008
I think PI should take in to account that most players just get a freeroll out of the Poker Payroll Challenge & look forward to a freeroll through the Team Challenge & what you have done is taken the freeroll away from the small players. I don't care what you say but you are screwing over the majority for the minority. You (Pokerinside) take a cut out of the money Betmost or any other poker site we sign up through your links every month so are a guaranteed winner in the scheme of things whether we are a high roller or small stakes you make money from us playing. I'm not bothered about winning a cash prize in these challenges just rewareded with a freeroll as a small stakes player let the high stakes players take that but I  just want a freeroll to boost my bankroll in these challenges. Over the past two months I find this site woeful, at times your customer service stinks never have a sent a site a question only to be replied a with a question, the challenges can go down for days without an update, you seem to be only interested in big players as you now state if you earn 500 nibs in a week we will do a custom payroll plan for you. I you earn 500 nibs a week you will get paid already for in the payroll challenge. At the end  of the day I've built my account form nothing & can quite happily take my money off Betmost & close my account & open directly through the poker site or through another forum who actually gives a monkeys about me & you will no longer get a slice of my money
Go all in I tell you
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Posted on Aug 7th 2008
As mentioned to other players, the team concept is a newish concept..which we're still trying to find out what best fits our site and the players as a whole. Please remain patient while we think of different things. If this ends up being a freeroll for the top 3 team or cash prizes for the top 3 teams that'll be the choice we make. But all this negativity really isn't helping. We try and bring our members more and more benefits for their membership with PokerInside. As I'm sure a lot of you knew before the Team challenge, blog challenge, $250 referral challenge weren't around before...and people weren't complaining. Neither was the PokerInside Leaderboard 3. You have to realized that a lot of things are being added and some are being changed or removed.   The end result will be us trying to bring all our members the best benefits that please a majority of our members. Obviously with so many members its impossible to please all of them...but we always strive too. Remember we're on a budget by IPoker and we have to make sure that we fall into those regulation so we can continue to run our site and bring our members benefits! P.S- If you're unable to obtain 400 nibs per month in regards to the Poker Payroll Challenge, please email me at mark @ pokerinside.com and I'll get you set-up on a custom plan to make sure you're being well rewarded from our site. Thanks and good luck at the tables!   Please answer this:   Would you guys like us to take away custom payroll plans and the LB3 and bring back cash prizes and freerolls for the team concept? Or leave things the way they are now? Please be constructive with your feedback or give other ideas you might have. As we're still deciding the best reward system for the Team Challenge. Thanks!
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